tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3534782797790619934.post6490694459764857266..comments2024-03-10T04:32:25.985-07:00Comments on Improved Initiative: Can We Stop Making "The Batman Argument" For Wizards?Neal Litherlandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01307649737269196558noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3534782797790619934.post-79850823782689322432017-07-01T09:58:46.313-07:002017-07-01T09:58:46.313-07:00The point you seem to be forgetting, though, is th...The point you seem to be forgetting, though, is that wizards run out of bullets. And you have to prepare the right rounds for that day.<br /><br />It's true, you can cast knock. But did you prepare it 5 times, or just one? Because the first use will get you past the citadel's outer door, but it won't open the inner doors that were out of range. That's where the rogue comes in.<br /><br />You prepared charm person today, lovely! Unfortunately, the monk you just tried to cast it on shrugs the spell off entirely, and that was the only spell you had that day. Fortunately the bard's Diplomacy score is ridiculous, and the monk doesn't get to roll a save against the use of the skill.<br /><br />Is it possible for a wizard to do everything? If the player knew exactly what challenges they were going to face, then sure. But players don't know that in advance. So something as simple as bringing a knife to a gun fight can completely screw your plans as a wizard.<br /><br />Will you always have the things you're good at to rely on? Sure! You need to box in the bad guys, debuff an attacker, or cast lightning, those are old standbys. But you only have so much juice a day. These other classes that rely on muscle or skills, they don't need prep time before the fight starts. And they can go all day long without needing 8 hours of rest, and 1 more of memorizing.Neal Litherlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01307649737269196558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3534782797790619934.post-61657531742340211792016-03-30T21:29:15.372-07:002016-03-30T21:29:15.372-07:00The Wizard can replace the rogue for a few traps, ...The Wizard can replace the rogue for a few traps, but at the expense of versatility. Every door they unlock is another spell they can't cast. It's a trade off.theStormWeaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05492038308768365937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3534782797790619934.post-62641017462566642482016-03-30T13:02:59.317-07:002016-03-30T13:02:59.317-07:00Neal, I feel the greatest argument against a wizar...Neal, I feel the greatest argument against a wizard is the classes ability to do it all. A wizard can replace almost any class niche and leads to a negitive play experience for others. Spells like knock and mage hand can easily steal the spot light from a rougish class. The expert warrior can only dream of dropping foes at the rate of a well placed fireball. With a charm spell the wizard instantly takes care of certain social issues. It's not about equal level power or whether I can win a fight one on one. It is about a class that with little to no creativity can replace another party members roll in the group and lead to a sense of worthlessness. Fighter "Oh man I gained an extra attack with my sword!" Wizard "That's cool I can summon a hurricane... A God damn hurricane.<br /><br />Unfortunately it's not about balance it's about time and access to the spotlight.Ninjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15786836512877312565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3534782797790619934.post-14508767253955376812016-03-30T13:02:35.597-07:002016-03-30T13:02:35.597-07:00Neal, I feel the greatest argument against a wizar...Neal, I feel the greatest argument against a wizard is the classes ability to do it all. A wizard can replace almost any class niche and leads to a negitive play experience for others. Spells like knock and mage hand can easily steal the spot light from a rougish class. The expert warrior can only dream of dropping foes at the rate of a well placed fireball. With a charm spell the wizard instantly takes care of certain social issues. It's not about equal level power or whether I can win a fight one on one. It is about a class that with little to no creativity can replace another party members roll in the group and lead to a sense of worthlessness. Fighter "Oh man I gained an extra attack with my sword!" Wizard "That's cool I can summon a hurricane... A God damn hurricane.<br /><br />Unfortunately it's not about balance it's about time and access to the spotlight.Ninjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15786836512877312565noreply@blogger.com